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No Man am I Final by AbePapakhian No Man am I Final by AbePapakhian
Finally finished. Watercolour with some help from photoshop.

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LimeGreenBunny Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. Thank you for calling it "No man am I" instead of "I am no man." I find Eowyn's dialog in the book to be SO much stronger and more engaging than her lines in the movie.
2. As usual, I am totally freaking out about the level of detail in your work :)
3. Is that Merry in the corner there?
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maglor20 Mar 11, 2014  New member
This is wonderful. :)
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This is an interesting perspective for the scene. It's the only one I know of that rotates the focus to look behind the Lord of Morgul. It put Eowyn directly in the center, which made for a distant but strong focus.
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This is amazing! I love the sight of the battle field below him. And I like your vision of Witch King. He looks dangerous and mysterious, shows brutality.
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AbePapakhian Aug 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you. I'm never as happy as when I can capture the chaos of a battlefield. I think I diminished Eowyn a bit too much, though. I still like how insignificant she must appear to the Witch King, knowing what is to come.
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wheresmytea May 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
DANG. Absolutely phenomenal work, lookit the insane amount of detail, the metal, the cloth, the skin, everything! Just WOW. Mad skillz, man. Mad skillz.
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Drakonee Apr 16, 2011  Student General Artist
Awesome! :o
Maybe one not-really-criticism… as a picture, it's quite cluttered. Especially Eowyn is disapearing against the background. It's hard not to get lost in all the detail.
I know it would be a hell to combine the realism you obviously go for and more of a storyteller's aproach (concentrating on the story the pic is telling)…and if you were to take a photo on the spot, it would look similarly cluttered. :) But if you could do it, add more focus on the important parts of the scene while keeping the realism, that would be awesome squared. :nod:
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AbePapakhian Apr 23, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Your point hits my dilemma on the head. Realism is important to me. Not hyper realism, but real enough, if that makes sense. I want my paintings to feel real. I want the viewer to be a participant, not an objective voyeur. That's the goal. With this in mind I try to balance how much focus to put on the main subjects, how much to adjust light sources, to saturate or desaturate the rest of the painting. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I fail.

In this piece, I feel that some of these goals were accomplished, not all. To me, war should be messy, chaotic, and if your in the thick of it, very unfocused. You would be swivelling your head left and right trying to grasp what is happening. You would not have time to stop and stare and contemplate.

My means of adding realism and storytelling, is making my subject matter stand out. They tend to dominate by scale. Here I wanted to make Eowyn almost insignificant and for the viewer to identify with the Witch King, almost like riding behind him and feeling omnipotent.

You are not alone in wishing to see more focus on the foreground so I did pull this piece out again to add to the saturation of colour and to distinguish the foreground more. I'll upload it soon.
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Drakonee Apr 23, 2011  Student General Artist
If you try to go for realism, it's always hard to balance everything - make the picture "work" as a story but not lose the realism.

In this picture, I think you could have worked more with the perspective and light. Eowyn is quite far away from the Witch King and the pic is quite uniform in lighting. If you put them closer and looked on her more downward, you would get through the feeling of insignificance she has in the eyes of the Witch King and simplified the background. You could represent the chaos of a battle field with details instead of figures then - the grass would be beaten down and covered with blood, she is practically standing on the dead horse's body! If the focus still wasn't enough, you could use light - I can't recall the scene from the book completely, but wasn't it dark already? The light would be the Orod Ruin and probably fires. You would get color contrast too - her uniform is green, isn't it?

Well, just my thoughts. Maybe that would be too theatrical for you. But it's a way how to work with it - much like photographers use composition and light situation to accentuate the scene.
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AndrewRyanArt Apr 3, 2011  Student General Artist
great composition, I think the contrast could use more work though, the witch king is so close to us yet his value range isn't that much darker than the rest of the image. He stood out more in the drawing. Overall though it's pretty neat, the fell beast head is a great shape.
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